Does my baby look to those of you used to looking at babies? I figured between 3-4 weeks oop but I am not sure. Please help me.

wow ... she looks very young! Did you buy her?

Yes I bought her from (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets a week and a half ago. I am just concerned that she still won't make it.

are you supplementing her - hand feeding her? Poor baby...

Yes I am hand feeding her the joey formula from Suz's site. She started out drinking the whole amount every 3-4 hours, now she only takes about 1/2 every 3-4 hours so I am getting worried. Her eyes are clear and bright her coat fluffy her tail has not puffed up yet. She has a odor not real strong but there.

Ok thanks I will.

Hope Suz can help you...having her in an incubator is probably a good idea so she stays warm. I am sure Suz will walk you through everything and let you know if you need to do that. I'm still praying for your baby!

Thank you so much Erin! I do have her in a incubator and I have been hand feeding her every 3-4 hours. I just wish I could get someone to give me a guess about age so I know when to start weening and introduce more food. I just want to get it right.

can you get a closer picture of her?
I have pics of joeys currently 4 weeks oop and they look bigger than her

Here are two more pix. Thats all I have right now that are halfway decent.

Have you weighed her? I have a 2 joeys that are 4 wks oop one is 36g the little guy is 33g. I'm going to try to get some pics up for you. I will be back!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/bdeese2001/S5031433.jpg

heres a pic of adara at four weeks old

Adara is so cute and she does look bigger then my baby.
I need to get a scale for her asap.

That baby is tiny! there is no way she is over four weeks old!

Make sure you keep her warm and hand feed her every two hours.
Poor thing!!!

my triplets today at four weeks weighed 29-38 grams
if you look up my update on triplet part 2 thread you can see their pics from today.

Ok so I should feed every 2 hours instead of every 3-4. This is just so depressing that someone would take her from her mommy so early. I just pray I am giving her a fighting chance!

well, as sick and tiny as shes looking right now id start with every 2 and then if she seems full and not wanting to eat as often you can back off to 3-4 hours.
You will be able to tell when she hungry once you guys get into a regular routine

Ok I tried to weigh her on my ounces scale but she barely moved an ounce so I am sending hubby to walmart to get a grams scale.

heres a pic of the triplets at almost 3 weeks oop
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/bdeese2001/S5032146.jpg

Yeah I checked their 4 week oop and she doesn't look like them yet closer to the 3 week oop. But what scares me is it will be 2 weeks on Friday that I have had her that means she was only 2-3 weeks oop when I got her.

poor baby!!! im so glad you came here to get some help!!!
Hopefully in 2 weeks she willbe interested in eating on her own so you wont have to hand feed her.

OMG-she looks so tiny.....jackson and chelsea are 4 weeks OOP and weigh over 38 grams each......when I had to hand-raise my joeys, I got concerned because they weren't eating every 2 hours but I spoke with Sheila and she said exactly what Barbara said......you will be able to tell when they hungry after a little bit of routine...good luck and keep us posted

I am glad I came here too. Even though I do enjoy the quality time I get with her hand feeding her I just want her well enough to thrive and eat on her own!

Your triplets are fluffy little guys! Too cute, I'm sure you are very proud. I'm trying to fix my camera my pic are over exposed. I'll get it right in a few. My little guys look smaller than Babara's tho... But the weight is right in line, my babies are from a rescue girl who came with them in pouch weighing only 88g they were born a week later. I can't imagine anything from (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets would be in better conditions, so her weight should help us tell. I don't know if she looks as small as 4 wks just that her coat isn't well groomed which makes a big difference too. What do you think Barbara?

Also my little guy "Hook" has been seen lapping up the HPW by himself, does she show any interest in eating by herself?

Her coat is a mess. I uses the cottonelle wipes to try and help clean her but it isn't helping. Is there something else i should try to help her with her coat? I never see her groomig much at all.

I have tried to put her formula in a flat lid but she justs walks thru it. Not even trying it.

Holy Toledo! She is so SMALL!!! Oooooh!!! (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets

But enough of that....you need to deal with where you are. Have you researched Suz's website on the subject of raising a joey? Let's be honest, that's what you're doing (through no fault of yours, honey! ) so arming yourself with information is the best starting point. Here's a link to the part that you need:

http://www.suzsugargliders.com/handraisingajoey.htm

The 2 things I want you to concentrate on is the feeding schedule and the incubator...and I agree with Barbara: it's better to give smaller feedings every 2 hours than to try & stuff her every 4 hours. (Just as a side thought: is she even able to go potty by herself??? That is a cause for concern, too ) And at her young age, she ISN'T able to maintain her own body temperature so an incubator would help that IMMENSELY. The heating pad can't have the automatic shut-off timer, watch that when you're shopping...and don't pinch pennies when you buy the thermometer either! The one with the remote reading device is GREAT for checking things without having to constantly open up the container. At the top of this forum is a "Sticky Note" about Maisie's Portable Incubator...there's some good reading in it too! And if you have questions/problems/concerns, PLEASE feel free to call Suz!!! She's a WONDERFUL, LOVING, KIND lady who'll help you in every way that she can.

I'm adding my prayers to all the others going your way for this little baby. She CAN BE ok...but will need LOTS AND LOTS of loving! The reward will be when she gets to be 2 months old...she'll be a momma's girl that many will envy!

Well if she is 4 wks the parents usually are the ones to keep them clean, the cotonelle wipes is really all you can do that I know of. She is way to small for anything else. Has she been seen by a vet? How is her poop?

She has been to a vet and is supposed to go back Friday. She has diarrhea has had it for almost a week. The vet checked for Giardia and it was negative. The vet said she had slight dehydration and to give her pedialyte or gatorade with water.

I have seen my joeys start grooming but at 4 weeks mom and dad are still helping go to the bathroom and keeping them clean.
Her coat isnt very fluffy which could be nutrition since shes not getting what her little body needs at her age.

But sicne youa re feedin her the formula you should see a big difference within a few days.

My baby is only 16 grams I am gonna cry I am so scared I am gonna lose her.

Ok atleast you don't have Giardia to worry about. Please make sure you do the tent test regularly as with diarreah they can dehydrate really quick and things can get dangerous really fast. If she is dehydrated any vet can help but she will require sub q fluids. Do you have Suz's phone number? She really is great and can help you much better than I. I do alot of rescue work but 9 out of 10 they are adults. I'm not the best source of info on the babies but atleast I can give you an idea. I truly hope she gets better really soon!

This is so sad! How can people take away a baby from its parents so early just to make money. It is sick.


I hope the little girl starts to eat for you. You can even keep her in your bra during the day wrapped up in fleece your body will keep her warm. This way you can constantly watch her.

Oh boy that is too small! Please call Suz. Here is her info
sugarglidersuz - Suz
440-520-4799 (cell)
If no answer, please leave a message

I am calling right now.

I am soo sorry you are going through this, my heart goes out to you

Your allright!! Its not your fault but you can get her better!


Just follow the feeding schedule and keep her warm is the ost importan things and you will notice her gaining weight like nobodies business


Good luck hun!!!!!!

thank you all soooo much I don't even know what to say I am grateful for everyones help and comments at least I know I am not alone and I am doing everything in my power to make sure my baby makes it!

Weigh her everday and keep track of it. if you dont notice her gaining or if she starts loosing id get her back to the vet sooner than later.

Ok I definitly will. Again thank you!

Please keep us posted as we will all be worried til we hear from you

anytime hun!! its what we are here for!

I sent you a PM, it's the little flashing envelope at the top next to My Stuff

Ok thank you .... nothing there?

it's there now, I just type slow

Got it thank you!

Glad I could help

You all are the best I am so very thankful I was told by a breeder here in Maryland about this forum. I am not sure my baby would have made it this far without all you wonderful people!

OMG I can not believe she is only 16 grams! That is very tiny. Have you talked with Suz yet? I am glad that more people have seen this and are helping you out now. I hope your little one makes it, she is for sure a fighter! Good luck!

That poor precious little baby! Praying very hard she makes it. Please keep us posted.

When I took her to the vet he did give her meds to be on the safe side he said. I have been toing the humidity in the incubator but not the barometer. I will run out this morning to get one for her.I do have some semi-good news her poop was firmer then it was yesterday not solid like my other one but it least had a poop shape but was softer then it should be. Her coat is starting to look a little fluffier just not her tail. Suz she aye some of the pumpkin too at 2 of her feedings so I am hoping that is a good sign too. I will keep everyone posted I promise.

She has many praying very hard for her. I will be keeping a watch for updates on this little one. And also there are some people trying to compile info to get these people shut down. I don't have the link right now, but I am sure someone else here does. You could add your story to it.

Her eating the pumpkin is very good!!!
I glad she attempting to eat on her own!
To make sure pleasse keep hand feeding her the mix until shes fully eating on her own.

Has she gained any weight overnight since you have been feeding her?

Her tail would be the last part to start fluffing up so your on the right track

this little one is in our prayers as well....glad to hear she ate a little pumpkin.....here's a big hug to you and your little one

The link reffered to above is http://sesg.suggies.net. There is a group effort to put an end to the senseless suffering of both suggies and their owners. Once Tink is better we will need your help. Please keep all reciepts and vet records as we will need those in the future. I will continue to pray for you and your little girl! It's a good sign she ate a little on her own

Adri I signed up just waiting for approval.

Thanks! I will contact you for any documentation you can help us with, again I am really rooting for Tink. I have faith you can get her through this!

Woohoo I just weighed Tinkerbelle and she is now 17 grams. I am so excited. This is good right? On average how much should she gain a day? Also she is still pooping better and eating her pumkin though she is a messy eater lol

Going up is good! More normal poop and eating more is definitely good! As long as she is going up, take that for a good sign. She is a little fighter, and she has a world of people praying for her. I'm so happy for both of you!

Yay...she is gaining weight. You are doing an awesome job!!!! Just wanted to let you know you are both in my thoughts and prayers. sounds like she is on the mend. Do you have any updated pics. Poor little thing.

Anna

Any increase in weigh is good. Some days my joeys dont increase but a gram and then others it 2-3.
Id say one gram in the period of time is a greats start

That is great! Go Tink! My joeys tend to gain about a gram a day, sometimes 2. You are doing a great job!

Very Good! I'm very happy for you both. Try to always weigh her at the same time, since there maybe some fluctuation throughout the day and it is also great to keep us the "slaves" on schedule. And in Tinks case I feel any weight gain is a huge step! Keep it up mommie, and give Tink a kiss for me! You know I have a very tiny Tink too she came to me as a rescue having a minimum age of 3 months weighing only 48g but she's weighing 79g now it's been a month since she is here. Your Tink will grow really quickly too once she gets a little stronger.

I am very sad to say but Tinkerbelle is at the vet right now fighting for her life. She had a rough night, she was very lethargic and would barely eat any formula. I called my vet and they saw her immediately. They told me she only has a 25% chance of survival. I could either put her to sleep or let her stay and they would push fluids, antibiotics and something else but my head is spinning and I can't remember what. She has infections on her back feet, dehydrated and under weight.I told the vet to do whatever she possibly can because Tink is a fighter and I will fight with her for everything she needs. Please oh please keep her in your prayers. I am crying my eyes out even though I have only had her for a short time I love her dearly. On a side note I took my 5 month oop Wendy and she is perfect she weighs 60 grams and feisty. Thank god I have them in separate cages for the quarentine I couldn't handle loosing them both.

Prayers are coming...

Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear this. I am praying for you, please keep us posted

and lots and lots of prayers.......

I'm so sorry to hear this!! Humongous s and prayers for both her and you headed that way!!

I just got off the phone with the vet. The vet said Tinkerbelles is a little bit stronger then when I brought her in. They have been pushing pedialyte and they are going to try to get her on formula tonight. They said to call tomorrow late morning for another update. Please continue to keep her in your prayers! And thank you for those that already have her in their prayers my baby is a fighter but I am not ashamed to ask for a little help.

Is someone going to be with her throughout the night, or is she just going to be in an incubator?

I only ask because one time when I was using a new vet, they wanted me to leave my dog overnight, but they were leaving at 7pm, and would not return until 6am! They didn't understand why I refused to leave my sick dog alone in their facility overnight!

Anyways, that is why I always ask - because if no one is going to monitor her, she would probably be better off with you so that you can keep an eye on her through the night...

Ok just called back. They said that the vet has orders for her to be checked and fed/liquids pushed every other hour through the night and the vet will also be coming in a few times through the night. So I feel better about that. Monster thank you for reminding me about that I am so out of it I didn't even think to ask that especially since I have been getting up every other hour in the night to feed her.

Good, I just wanted to be sure...Will be thinking of her tonight

Oh no I hope little Tink makes it! I have been thinking about you guys all day. She has made it this far, she just has to pull through! I am so sorry that you have to go through this!

I'm so sorry to hear about you're little baby! I hope she makes it ok I'll be rooting for her!

I have sent you a PM

I just saw this about your little baby and i too am praying for her. Hang in there she has a strong will for sure and my heart gose out to her. And its so sad that there are those who will sell a baby that young its just worng. i have three joeys for sale and i had a person to call me wanting one of mime young i said no way i don,t sell my babys till they are 18 weeks i send people who want to sell or buy gliders that young i send them to sugar glider univerisity to read http://www.glideruniversity.org/index/content/view/54/34/ this a great place to go check out. My heart is with you and your baby and your heart is hurting for her i know i too have gliders and went Sassy got her tail took off i like to of had a break down i was up four days and nights the vet was more worry about me then her he kept saying she will be ok but i did,t know that but today she is as sassy as ever no tail and it has not stop her at all and she is so cute. And she is going to be a mommy. But i hope your baby comes out of this she loves you and knows you are there for her.please let me know how she is doing. I do hope she is holding her own. ladycatblue02@yahoo.com Ann and the gliders

What that article is stating is 8 weeks oop or 18 weeks from the actual birth. Since we rarely see the actual birth age is calculated from oop date.(Just a clarification, as I didn't want people to think if they purchased a joey at 8 week oop they would have a problem)

I've been watching this post too - I'm hoping there's good news this morning.

Any news yet???

biting all nails as we wait for any news

I am sad to say that the one I wore closest to my heart has passed away. She waited for mommy to come see her this morning and passed in my hands. I am devastated for my family I still don't how I am going to tell my children. I know we only had her for a short time but we loved her so much. Thank you all for the prayers I know my baby is in a better place now with no more pain and hurting.

Oh, I'm so very sorry. I know how hard it is to lose a baby like that. Please know that you did eveything you could to save her and that she knew how much you loved her. I am praying for you and your family.

I am so sorry to hear this news. She died knowing she was loved dearly and wanted so very much.

I am so sorry to hear your little one did not make it.....my heart goes out to you

If you need anything, please ask

I am so sorry that she didn't make it

I wish I had words for you, you did everything you could for her. It is a shame the vet did not tell you she was too young the first time you went They must not have had much experience with gliders. I hope that you new baby helps heal your heart and please do give your info over to the mill breeder project so you can help stop (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets. Have you contacted them at all to get your money back...it may be a lost cause but it's worth a shot...

I am sooo sorry

Thank you all! My husband is taking the paper work to his work on Monday and xeroxing it so I can mail it to the mill breeder project. I did email (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets and they were like well it sounds like she was around a toxin that killed her. I was like no you sold her to me to young. The vet verified it so it was not my doing it was your doing. GRRRRR it makes me so mad!

They are so evil. Everyone that has been wronged should file a huge class action suit against them to recoup losses from vet bills or something. I just can not believe that they are still in buisness. It is so sad. Once again so sorry about Tink. I really hope that the mill breeder project works to stop them.

::BANGS HEAD AGAINST WALL::::

Oh no! Im soooo sorry for your loss!!!
She knew you loved her and did all you could to help her!